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Thread starter justin4 Start date Feb 28, justin4 Tiradas gratis Member Feb cojnting, Any care able to explain the pros and cons countihg this game. Double at strayegy time conuting.
farmdoggy Strateegy Member Strateyg 28, Pros: -Considered countibg carny game, Tiradas gratis places don't even look srrategy card counters caard this game. Hence it is easier and prudent Spxnish get away with a large spread. Cons: -Due to more complex acrd, this game coumting harder The basic strategy is more complex, stratrgy it is worth it to memorize a ton of indices as more of the advantage is ciunting by index countung than in blackjack.
It's Spwnish around longer, studied more from various points of view. FLASH Well-Known Member Feb 28, You are most likely referring stfategy the Atlantic Countint game, stratrgy your expectation is better than conuting Blackjack, especially H I have drawn major stgategy [betting light green] ckunting several casinos in Dard.
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Automatic Monkey Banned Carv 28, founting said:. justin4 New Member Mar stratehy, Spanish card counting strategy Thanks stratefy the coutning.
Something I will look into but for counying I'll stick with BJ. I must add reading the message boards lots of very bright people here. Thanks again. EmeraldCityBJ Well-Known Member Mar 1, EmeraldCityBJ said:.
I also don't necesarily agree with the comments that SP21 is lower variance. Certainly the version I typically play which allows double-double down is higher variance. The result of several of my sessions comes down to what happened on my max bet redoubles, and I see much wilder session results and bankroll fluctuations with SP21 than I'd ever seen with BJ.
I'm not as familiar with the S17 game, but recall hearing that even with it, you double-down more frequently than you do in BJ. That alone would increase your variance. FLASH Well-Known Member Mar 2, The composition-dependant Basic Strategy Charts are actually too extensive for a tourist. For the purely recreational player red-chip who may have to play Span21 once or twice a year — the requisite effort isn't close to being worth it.
I fully agree with EmeraldCityBJ. A seldom referenced reality is that a larger bankroll is also needed. I had been backed-off 5 times in playing low-stakes Span Sadly, there is NO likelihood of there every being a revised text on Span21 by Katarina Walker. Unlike Flash's experience with backoffs, I have never been backed off at Sp21, playing at many of the same places, spreading from 1x to 2x As a matter of fact and I still can't figure this one outafter playing several hours of Sp21 at a CT casino, I went over to a BJ table.
After about 15 minutes at the BJ table I was backed off. I'm sure it was related to play from my previous trip there and a post-play skills check analysis. All of my backoffs at Span21 were at properties where I had prior backoffs playing BJ. IF I were entirely unknown perhaps I would not have received heat.
Automatic Monkey Banned Mar 2, A couple years ago, this may have been accurate, but it's certainly not the case today, now that a book has been published and there are several ridiculous claims that the game is "better" than blackjack. More than half of my backoffs in the past couple years have been on SP The idea that you can blast away aggressively and get away with it is simply no longer true.
About the only benefit to learning SP21 is to give you more options. If you live in an area or travel to an area frequently which has a lot of SP21, it might be worth the effort to learn the game. If you're not able to play the game on a regular basis, I'd look for other opportunities. jnrwilliam Active Member Mar 13, FLASH said:.
according to wizard of odds, House edge 0. will dlr peek n open immediately if it is natural? how the H.
increase if not allow to hit for splitted Aces? FLASH Well-Known Member Mar 13, In the U S A dealer ALWAYS begins with 2 cards. In Australia, and some other Asian venues a variant called "Pontoon" is offered where the dealer does NOT take a hole-card. In Span21 your Blackjacks are paid before the dealer "peeks" Your other 21's are automatic winners.
Not "pushable". The penalty for being unable to draw to ~ or ~ double on Split Aces is dramatic. I know of only one casino in the USA that resorts to such duplicity, Mohegan Sun in Connecticut. I would NOT play such a game without some compensating rule change.
geneticfreak Well-Known Member Mar 14, Mohegan Sun Pocono also has the single card to split aces rule. geneticfreak said:. geneticfreak Well-Known Member Mar 15, That's good news. I was there the week the got the game and they insisted they were right and I was wrong.
I was also pleasantly surprised to find it at Hollywood, PA this week. Baseball John Member May 2, Does anyone know the house adv. of the Spanish 21 game at Foxwoods?? sabre Well-Known Member May 2, Baseball John said:. Dyepaintball12 Well-Known Member May 2, Huge carny game.
Cannot be beat. No way. FLASH Well-Known Member May 2, DyePaintBall, you posted: "Huge carny game. You must log in or register to reply here.
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html After you read through the above webpages, you MAY consider purchasing the good book by Katarina Walker. Automatic Monkey Banned Feb 28, farmdoggy said:. justin4 New Member Mar 1, Thanks Thanks for the reply.
Something I will look into but for now I'll stick with BJ. I must add reading the message boards lots of very bright people here. Thanks again. EmeraldCityBJ Well-Known Member Mar 1, EmeraldCityBJ said:.
I also don't necesarily agree with the comments that SP21 is lower variance. Certainly the version I typically play which allows double-double down is higher variance. The result of several of my sessions comes down to what happened on my max bet redoubles, and I see much wilder session results and bankroll fluctuations with SP21 than I'd ever seen with BJ.
I'm not as familiar with the S17 game, but recall hearing that even with it, you double-down more frequently than you do in BJ. That alone would increase your variance. FLASH Well-Known Member Mar 2, The composition-dependant Basic Strategy Charts are actually too extensive for a tourist.
For the purely recreational player red-chip who may have to play Span21 once or twice a year — the requisite effort isn't close to being worth it. I fully agree with EmeraldCityBJ.
A seldom referenced reality is that a larger bankroll is also needed. I had been backed-off 5 times in playing low-stakes Span Sadly, there is NO likelihood of there every being a revised text on Span21 by Katarina Walker.
Unlike Flash's experience with backoffs, I have never been backed off at Sp21, playing at many of the same places, spreading from 1x to 2x As a matter of fact and I still can't figure this one out , after playing several hours of Sp21 at a CT casino, I went over to a BJ table.
After about 15 minutes at the BJ table I was backed off. I'm sure it was related to play from my previous trip there and a post-play skills check analysis. All of my backoffs at Span21 were at properties where I had prior backoffs playing BJ. IF I were entirely unknown perhaps I would not have received heat.
Automatic Monkey Banned Mar 2, A couple years ago, this may have been accurate, but it's certainly not the case today, now that a book has been published and there are several ridiculous claims that the game is "better" than blackjack. More than half of my backoffs in the past couple years have been on SP The idea that you can blast away aggressively and get away with it is simply no longer true.
About the only benefit to learning SP21 is to give you more options. If you live in an area or travel to an area frequently which has a lot of SP21, it might be worth the effort to learn the game. If you're not able to play the game on a regular basis, I'd look for other opportunities.
jnrwilliam Active Member Mar 13, FLASH said:. according to wizard of odds, House edge 0. will dlr peek n open immediately if it is natural? how the H. increase if not allow to hit for splitted Aces? FLASH Well-Known Member Mar 13, In the U S A dealer ALWAYS begins with 2 cards.
In Australia, and some other Asian venues a variant called "Pontoon" is offered where the dealer does NOT take a hole-card.
In Span21 your Blackjacks are paid before the dealer "peeks" Your other 21's are automatic winners. Not "pushable". The penalty for being unable to draw to ~ or ~ double on Split Aces is dramatic. I know of only one casino in the USA that resorts to such duplicity, Mohegan Sun in Connecticut.
I would NOT play such a game without some compensating rule change. of course, plus the good point you mentioned about them thank you so much for your insight.
my final goal is not actually making money playing blackjack or any casino game i just want to play them better. that's all. i will check your articles. Best blackjack bonuses. Joined: Apr 19, July 6th, at AM permalink. hello there I am recently bumped into Ace Five counting system and I find it super interesting because my goal is not making money in casinos but not playing a losing game.
professional card counting is not simply my thing in a casino. better or worse? if it is applicable in these games, would it require any basic strategy deviation or not? I am far from a math expert so i need your assistance here : thanks for your insights in advanced.
Joined: Jul 22, Thanked by. July 6th, at PM permalink. Playing it correctly means you've already won. July 7th, at AM permalink. I am new to this and I am being learning. I already know couple of concepts you mentioned and I am studying on other ones.
can you assume I am familiar with those concepts and answer my question? Joined: Jan 23, You mentioned single and double deck games. It would be more successful in these blackjack games than Spanish However, as Romes mentioned you'll want to understand those other components as well.
If you really are interested in a break even or positive game without counting look into Max Rubin's Comp City. Ah, well I'm admittedly not nearly as mathematically inclined as many of the other posters here so you'll likely get better answers from them.
Spanish 21 is much different than blackjack, so I imagine any counting system would have to be altered significantly to account for the changed decks.
Single deck games will have a lower house edge if they have better rules than shoe games, so by default you would do better with them. Still, I caution you about thinking any number of decks with the ace five count will be successful, especially if you don't look into things like bet spread and penetration.
Joined: Apr 17, I don't play much Spanish 21 so I don't know how Ace-5 count would effect that game. Off the top of my head I would think not very well. For regular blackjack, Ace-5 dosen't do much. The days of good games where Ace-5 could get you close to break even are pretty much gone.
BE absolutely sure about this before you start playing. For the most part I will echo Romes. Hi-Lo is a simple count that works. You really don't want to go any "simpler" than that. If the issue is the true count conversion, just go with K-O.
Basically the same strength with no TC conversion. Anything "simpler" than that like speed count of ace-5 and you are getting a much weaker count and probably not worth the effort with today's games.
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